1. For about 150 years, it has been tradition to place these events in the time of The Crusades. This is the second time we have had our forest outlaw's story set in the time period either in the century after The Battle of Hastings, or immediately following it, as in this case.
Parke Godwin has skilfully used history as a literal character in this story: How has THIS affected the way our heroes have been portrayed? (Has it opened up a greater means to explore the development of them as individuals by using the backdrop of England's development as a nation ...or has this different setting had an affect at all?
2. Robin and Marian are the most well known of the couples portrayed here, but their romance is NOT always at center stage. We have not just one, but FIVE wonderful romantic couples Mr. Godwin has given us in his version of The Legend.
a. Robin and Marian (of course)
b.Robin's parents, Maud and Aelred, (son of Brihtnoth and Gruntada, OK, there might our sixth couple?)
c. "Mora' and "Gilly" (I couldn't get over these little nicknames!!): (AKA: William Plantagenet, Duke Of Normandy, King of England , called The Conqueror, and with some "affection" by the Saxons (and others, LOL) "Willy Bastard", and his little "mini queen" (If it can be said that the best things DO come in the smallest of packages, it was THIS lady!!), Matilda of Flanders, (what a gal!! If you ask me, Eleanore and Henry had A LOT to live up to in THIS couple.) This is THE most personal and human portrait I have read to date of these two English monarchs.
d. Ralph Fitz-Gerald and Judith, (Robin's cousin)
e. Will Scatloche (Scarlet), and Angharad.
Which was the most romantic of the five, and/or which was your favorite and why? How did their respective stories affect
(or may yet affect, as we have two more books in the series to go,"Robin and The King" and the final one Godwin is working on as we keyboard, "Conscience Of The King")
the outcome of the story?
3. Can you see our tvRH cast in Godwin's roles, and if so, which ones?
4. During the course of this story, Robin and Ralph Fitz-Gerald, (our Lord High Sheriff of Nottinghamshire), share a love of Marian, an equally deep sense of duty and honor, and not the least, of raw determination, and good old fashioned courage; (sound like two other men WE know?)
Both of them are DEEPLY flawed men, and YET, these two manage no small miracle between them...they become ALLIES. This is in spite of their open animosity and conflict, AND managing to deal each other a death blow, more than a few times over!. They actually come to RESPECT each other, AND openly work together. Ralph even manages to marry Robin's cousin Judith. So, they not only become allies, but family as well.
Could you see any of THIS happening to OUR Robin and Guy? Would you LIKE to this happen and why.
Given the political realities In Godwin's tale, do you think Robin and Ralph will REMAIN allies? If they don't, how will this affect the relationship between Robin and Judith, and Marian and Judith?
5. Parke Godwin speaks of men like Robin "groping" towards a "justice" for which they did not yet have words, and yet had a "sure instinct" for those words. How, in your opinion, has The Legend itself, managed to help us find those words, and in what ways have those words been written and continue to be written...are there further chapters yet to come?
pt 2 6. Some of the more well known characters, Little John, (John Littlereede), Friar Tuck, and Much meet untimely deaths rather early in this version of The Legend. (My Beg Bear dies......and such a tragic person too, Sigh, THIS I did not like!).
Did YOU like this? (or not?), and do you see others coming up to take their place, if at all?
7. Once again, we have the mystical/Celtic element brought into the story. What did you think of "The Bargain" ceremony that Robin and Marian take at the trunk of the oak tree? Would you have liked to see our tv Robin and Marian do something like this? Do you think our writers have possibly managed to convey this by:
a. putting Robin and Marian in a tree when they shared their last romantic kiss
b. Robin "popping the question" UNDER a tree, (and yet over a fresh grave, any significance in THAT one, considering the outcome of S2?)
c. Robin gives Marian her engagement ring literally IN a tree
d. Robin 'buries" her ring under that very same tree?
8. Robin's grandmother, turns out, was a powerful Wicca priestess when she "caught the eye of Brihtnoth of Denby", Robin's grandfather. Robin is also spoken and/or thought of as "god touched" as Will Scarlet puts it , learns to read and write in VERY short order, and impresses even William and Queen Matilda; (but neither of them can say just WHY he impresses them?)
Considering OUR darlin Robin's 'uncanny" ability with bow.....would you like to have a revelation of this sort, be brought out in our tvRH, (or perhaps just hinted at?)
9. Marian is portrayed as an orphan, of common birth, and a homeless refugee when Robin finds her on the road. Did you like this portrait of her, why or why not?
10. Robin is portrayed as a central figure in this version, but it NOT the one upon whom the ENTIRE story revolves upon. He is caught up in the larger events of history, and must some how survive them as best he can.
Have our tvRH writing staff managed to convey this at all? If not, will they do this in the short time they have left?
These book discussions began with a group devoted to the 2006 Robin Hood series on BBCA. We highly recommend the Robin Hood T.V. series with Jonas Armstrong as Robin Hood.
1. Adventures of Robin Hood....by Paul Creswick (1902) 2. Sherwood Forest....by Lisa Croll Di Dio 3. Sherwood....by Parke Godwin 4. Robin and the King....by Parke Godwin 5. Robin Hood....by Roger Lancelyn Green 6. Hood....by Stephen Lawhead 7. Scarlet....by Stephen Lawhead 8. Ballads of Robin Hood....edited by Jim Lees 9. Robin Hood....by J. Walker McSpadden 10. Merry Adventures of Robin Hood....by Howard Pyle (1911) 11. Lady of Sherwood....by Jennifer Roberson 12. Lady of the Forest....by Jennifer Roberson 13. Ivanhoe....by Sir Walter Scott (this story is more about Sir Wilfred of Ivanhoe, and his alliance with Robin Hood) 14. Forest Wife Trilogy....byTheresa Tomlinson 15. Maid Marian....by Elsa Watson 16. Trouble in the Forest....by Trystam Kith 17. Robin Hood: Courtship of Allan A'Dale (play) 18. Outlaws of Sherwood by Robin McKinley 19. The Ballads of Robin Hood...edited by Jim Lees 20. The Path of the She-wolf... by Teresa Tomlinson 21. What a Scoundrel Wants by Carrie Lofty. 22. Robin Hood and the Men of the Greenwood by Henry Gilbert 23. Robin Hood Green Lord of the Wildwood by John Matthews 24. Imagining Robin Hood - Pollard 25. In a Dark Wood - by Michael Cadnum GrandpaRoberts recently joined us here, (welcome!) and added the following: Tales of RH-Steven Percy Bows Against the Barons-Geffery Trease Robin Hood His Book-Eva March Tappan The Good Yeoman-Jay Williams Life & Adventures of RH-Rowland Walker Greenwood Tales-Dorothy King RH & His Merry Men-Alice Carsey RH Stories-Edward Dolch Stories Of RH-Cecily M. Rutley The Story of RH- John Fennemore The Chronicles of RH- Rosemary Sutcliff RH & His Merry Men-Maude Radford Warren Robin of Sherwood-Major Charles Gilson Men of sherwood-Donald Cooke The Silver Horn of RH-Donald Cooke Son of RH-Paul Castleton Son of RH in Nottingham-Paul Castleton RH-Sara Hawes Sterling Stories of RH & His Merry Men-J. Walker McSpadden RH-Carola Oman RH-George Cockburn Harvy RH & his Merry Foresters-S.C. Johnson Maid Marian-Thomas Love Peacock The Tale of RH & His Merry Men-Elinor M. Buckingham The Book of RH-A.L. Haydon Life in the Greenwood-Marion Florence Lansing Stories of RH-H.E.Marshall Stories of RH-Wingrove Willson The Truth About RH- P. Valentine Harris RH-John B. Marsh Tales & Plays of RH-Eleanor L. Skinner RH & His Merry Oulaws-F.C.Tilney RH-Louis Rhead RH-E. Charles Vivian RH--Arthur Malcolm Stories of RH-Charles Herbert RH- His Merry Exploits-Charles Wilson RH-Ula Waterhouse Echols RH-Edith Heal Locksley-Nicholas Chase The Assassin in the Greenwood-P.C. Doherty Robin & Marian-James Goldman-From the movie. Forbidden Forest-Michael Cadnum RH and His Life in the Greenwood-Rose Yeatman Woolfe The Boy Foresters-Anne Bowman RH-Maurice Lapman Fresh News From Sherwood-Donald Suddaby RH and His Merry Men-Escott Lynn RH and His Merry Men-Mary Macleod RH's Arrow-Eugenia Stone The Prince of Robbers-Barbara Green Marian's Christmas Rose-Barbara Green RH His Yorkshire Legend-Barbara Green The Original RH-John Sheffield The Legendary Exploits of RH-Jim Lees The Quest For RH-Jim Lees In A Dark Wood-Michael Cadnum RH-A Cinematic History-Scott Allen Nollen Adventures of RH-Screenplay-Rudy Behlmer RH-J.C. Holt RH-Stephen Knight Lincoln Green-Rev. E. Gilliat Longbow-Robert Hardy The Outlaws of Medieval Legend-Maurice Keen
Bound by Honor An Erotic Novel of Maid Marian" by Colette Gal "Trouble in the Forest" books 1 and 2 by Trystam Kith, "In A Dark Wood" and the sequel "Forbidden Forest: The Story of Little John and Robin Hood" by Michael Cadnum.
Rowan Hood: Outlaw Girl of Sherwood Forest by Nancy Springer
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ReplyDeleteFor about 150 years, it has been tradition to place these events in the time of The Crusades. This is the second time we have had our forest outlaw's story set in the time period either in the century after The Battle of Hastings, or immediately following it, as in this case.
Parke Godwin has skilfully used history as a literal character in this story: How has THIS affected the way our heroes have been portrayed? (Has it opened up a greater means to explore the development of them as individuals by using the backdrop of England's development as a nation ...or has this different setting had an affect at all?
2. Robin and Marian are the most well known of the couples portrayed here, but their romance is NOT always at center stage. We have not just one, but FIVE wonderful romantic couples Mr. Godwin has given us in his version of The Legend.
a. Robin and Marian (of course)
b.Robin's parents, Maud and Aelred, (son of Brihtnoth and Gruntada, OK, there might our sixth couple?)
c. "Mora' and "Gilly" (I couldn't get over these little nicknames!!): (AKA: William Plantagenet, Duke Of Normandy, King of England , called The Conqueror, and with some "affection" by the Saxons (and others, LOL) "Willy Bastard", and his little "mini queen" (If it can be said that the best things DO come in the smallest of packages, it was THIS lady!!), Matilda of Flanders, (what a gal!! If you ask me, Eleanore and Henry had A LOT to live up to in THIS couple.) This is THE most personal and human portrait I have read to date of these two English monarchs.
d. Ralph Fitz-Gerald and Judith, (Robin's cousin)
e. Will Scatloche (Scarlet), and Angharad.
Which was the most romantic of the five, and/or which was your favorite and why?
How did their respective stories affect
(or may yet affect, as we have two more books in the series to go,"Robin and The King" and the final one Godwin is working on as we keyboard, "Conscience Of The King")
the outcome of the story?
3. Can you see our tvRH cast in Godwin's roles, and if so, which ones?
4. During the course of this story, Robin and Ralph Fitz-Gerald, (our Lord High Sheriff of Nottinghamshire), share a love of Marian, an equally deep sense of duty and honor, and not the least, of raw determination, and good old fashioned courage; (sound like two other men WE know?)
Both of them are DEEPLY flawed men, and YET, these two manage no small miracle between them...they become ALLIES. This is in spite of their open animosity and conflict, AND managing to deal each other a death blow, more than a few times over!. They actually come to RESPECT each other, AND openly work together. Ralph even manages to marry Robin's cousin Judith. So, they not only become allies, but family as well.
Could you see any of THIS happening to OUR Robin and Guy? Would you LIKE to this happen and why.
Given the political realities In Godwin's tale, do you think Robin and Ralph will REMAIN allies? If they don't, how will this affect the relationship between Robin and Judith, and Marian and Judith?
5. Parke Godwin speaks of men like Robin "groping" towards a "justice" for which they did not yet have words, and yet had a "sure instinct" for those words. How, in your opinion, has The Legend itself, managed to help us find those words, and in what ways have those words been written and continue to be written...are there further chapters yet to come?
pt 2
ReplyDelete6. Some of the more well known characters, Little John, (John Littlereede), Friar Tuck, and Much meet untimely deaths rather early in this version of The Legend. (My Beg Bear dies......and such a tragic person too, Sigh, THIS I did not like!).
Did YOU like this? (or not?), and do you see others coming up to take their place, if at all?
7. Once again, we have the mystical/Celtic element brought into the story. What did you think of "The Bargain" ceremony that Robin and Marian take at the trunk of the oak tree? Would you have liked to see our tv Robin and Marian do something like this? Do you think our writers have possibly managed to convey this by:
a. putting Robin and Marian in a tree when they shared their last romantic kiss
b. Robin "popping the question" UNDER a tree, (and yet over a fresh grave, any significance in THAT one, considering the outcome of S2?)
c. Robin gives Marian her engagement ring literally IN a tree
d. Robin 'buries" her ring under that very same tree?
8. Robin's grandmother, turns out, was a powerful Wicca priestess when she "caught the eye of Brihtnoth of Denby", Robin's grandfather. Robin is also spoken and/or thought of as "god touched" as Will Scarlet puts it , learns to read and write in VERY short order, and impresses even William and Queen Matilda; (but neither of them can say just WHY he impresses them?)
Considering OUR darlin Robin's 'uncanny" ability with bow.....would you like to have a revelation of this sort, be brought out in our tvRH, (or perhaps just hinted at?)
9. Marian is portrayed as an orphan, of common birth, and a homeless refugee when Robin finds her on the road. Did you like this portrait of her, why or why not?
10. Robin is portrayed as a central figure in this version, but it NOT the one upon whom the ENTIRE story revolves upon. He is caught up in the larger events of history, and must some how survive them as best he can.
Have our tvRH writing staff managed to convey this at all? If not, will they do this in the short time they have left?